chris: david, that sounds pretty tough. you think of barack obama as we all know them. he was really there, he was against the iraq war. he was president because of that. >> make no mistake, this is a president that does not want to get into another war. as he looks at syria, he sees a slippery slope. he does not want to slide down it. he had to make those statements this week because he had had said that use of chemical weapons would be a red line. he never said what he would do about it. the one thing that you can be certain of, as obama looks at syria and iran, he wants to avoid any kind of entangling war, long expedition nature war like america has fought over the last 10 years. chris: these wars, if we go into iran, does anyone think it's a quick war, in and out, without historic repercussions on the other side? >> absolutely not, which is part of the reason why nobody within the -- there are very few people in the administration that have any sort of appetite for a war in iran.